Joe Rogan Experience #1509 - Abigail Shrier

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    PowerfulJRE

    Trukmė: 1:45:30

    Abigail Shrier is an author, journalist, and writer for the Wall Street Journal. Her new book "Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters" is available now. www.amazon.com/Irreversible-Damage-Transgender-Seducing-Daughters/dp/1684510317

Late Night Hustler
Late Night Hustler

Never give in to the mob!!!

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Late Night Hustler
Late Night Hustler

Bottom line, we need more competition in tech to avoid censorship by elites at these companies. Companies like Spotify, Facebook, Google, and Twitter should not have the power they do to threaten or shut down free speech, debate, and general conversation.

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Syd Collins
Syd Collins

I’m a detransitioned woman and when she started talking about the mother that contacted her that wanted to do something to help other mothers I started sobbing a little bit. At 17, I took testosterone for 3 years and had my breasts removed and my mom supported me through it. Now I have regrets she feels so fucking bad about it. I just want her to accept that she was brainwashed by activists and it’s not her fault. She just wanted to help me and she thought she was doing the right thing.

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Vienna Rose
Vienna Rose

The Lana del Rey thing was weird and unnecessary this hyper obsession with women’s appearance is what causes these issues in women to further as if somehow her gaining weight would warrant her being called fat that mindset is just so strange to me regardless he could have just acknowledged the point that social media is toxic

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Waldonalds_
Waldonalds_

The amount of misinformation holy shit

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Florida Gal
Florida Gal

Every time you hear Joe say “that seems crazy” you can replace “crazy” with “criminal.”

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Florida Gal
Florida Gal

I’m listening to this and going from anger to confusion to disbelief to horror to wanting to burst into tears. How in the actual hell did we get this fuck*d up as a society.

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D G
D G

#LetHerSpeak #Vote #JorgensenCohen2020

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Ryan Aries
Ryan Aries

I made allot of mistakes as a kid, there’s a reason why you can’t by Cigarettes, Liquor and Tattoos till your 18-21... I deff can’t talk about LQ & Ciggs cause I did get hooked into them young but looking back now I wish it wasn’t so easy for me to get. And thank god I didn’t get the stupid tattoos I wanted before my brain fully developed at 25💯 I could only imagine if I chopped off my dick at 14 and wanted it now. I just feel anything permanent should be studied and regulated Wayy More till your atleast an Adult....

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alberto balsalm
alberto balsalm

1:39:47 🤯

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JJ
JJ

If you can’t figure out why comparing trans people to witches and anorexics is fucking lunatic behavior then you just need to go outside more

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JJ
JJ

people be so adamant to put down trans people for no reason

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Phoebe
Phoebe

Transgenderism is the patriarchy's revenge on feminism.

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Charles Dexter Ward
Charles Dexter Ward

I'm totally joking about this but is there a teenage girl in the NYC area who wants to go to Planned Parenthood for me and get a Testosterone prescription ha ha? I could see myself buying a nice present for such a girl ha ha, HMU.

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Jim Mooney
Jim Mooney

I hear spotify banned this. Joe has jumped into a dirty free-speech hating well with spotify.

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Dru Smith
Dru Smith

16:20 Benji sounds like "GNC Centric"

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Dru Smith
Dru Smith

Get Meghan Murphy on the show.

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anthony giardina
anthony giardina

Planned parenthood is performing transgender procedures. I'm flabbergasted. Is there anything this company wont do?

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J Money
J Money

The primary issue here is the subtle art of manipulating the meaning of language so that two people engaged in discussion can be using the exact same words to refer to two entirely different concepts (without even realizing they are talking about two entirely different things). The word gender refers to "masculine" and "feminine", which certain ***things*** (e.g. words, ideas, behaviors, characteristics, clothes, abilities, etc.) are categorized based on its stereotypical association with either the male sex or the female sex. Saying that gender is a "social construction" is NOT saying that it is not real, or does not exist..it means that what is considered masculine and what is considered feminine is determined by culture, and varies over time and place. Until the 1940s, pink was considered a masculine color & associated with strength... magazines would encourage mothers to dress their sons in pink to encourage masculine development. Blue on the other hand was qualified as a feminine color due it being perceived as soft & its strong associaton with the Virgin Mary. "Man" and "woman" are neither social constructions or particular types of gender, but specific references for male and female human beings, respectively. A doe is the specific word for a female deer, not a female deer’s gender or identity..the same is true for buck: male deer, rooster: male chicken, hen: female chicken, woman: human female, man: human male. When trans activists say “gender” what they‘re referring to is not in fact gender (i.e. social constructs of masculinity & femininity), but a vague conceptual mashup of self-concept, personal identity, and personality traits associated with sex stereotypes which they describe as “gender” or “gender identity”, and to confuse matters even more they conflate this conception of “gender” with sex. there is no such thing as someone having a "woman's brain" in a male body, or a "'man's brain" in a female body, but just human beings with a brain that is part of a male or female body. masculinity and femininity are not exclusive to either the male sex or female sex...feminine males are as much of a man as masculine ones and masculine females are as much of a woman as feminine ones.

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Phil Wood
Phil Wood

20:23 "So the first comment on it is 'you look fat..'" okay so what? If women want equality they are going to have to learn to ignore or have come backs for people who insult them. You really think you can be successful and break down at someone calling you fat??? F them, tell them they look poor, you're rich!

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Jane Anon
Jane Anon

She's brilliant and her book is incredibly important. I am reading it right now. I have a transwoman client who uses the mens room and doesn't care what pronouns people use. She just wants to live her life in peace and this is the norm for "real" trans people. I think we do need to continue to make that distinction because these activists are hurting them as well as women. Regarding the woke mob: I have another client (I'm a counselor) who is a 23yo girl and tried to say on facebook that people shouldn't be attacking someone and trying to get him fired for saying something they thought was racist. She was viciously attacked and someone slashed her partner's parents' tires, then painted Black Lives Matter on the vehicle! They also called her partner's employer and complained about him. It's really horrific!

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Jitu Teron
Jitu Teron

I know a lot of guys who take on habits (good and bad) from peers. I am not sure what Abigail's assumption of only girl taking on habits from friends is based on. Guys don't talk that's true, but I think they still can feel it. I am a guy, just a disclaimer.

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PantherOooomooo One
PantherOooomooo One

The intersectional Left has become an irrational puritanical cult. My God, the cost, and the horrors they inflict on the world around them, makes my soul weary with sadness for them. They are a piteous lot with a suicidal philosophy.

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Jakob Darrow
Jakob Darrow

We all have egos who want to look good and progressive with out any actual reasearch

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Andre Rozetti
Andre Rozetti

Self consciousness in not the same as empathy.....she is not as smart as she thinks

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Andre Rozetti
Andre Rozetti

Flawed logic - happens often w groups of friends because they gravitate towards each other based on shared experience, even if not explicitly spoken - also 40-60 years are less likely to come out due to social stigma and the fact that they grew up in a generation when this was totally unacceptable

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CFN-_-Kenny
CFN-_-Kenny

I bet Elon musk will be labelled uneducated if he doesn't agree with everything trans

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R M.
R M.

There is nothing transphobic about caring about young people who are hurting and wanting to help them. There is nothing transphobic about trying to research and understand why people experience dysphoria and what can help them. How can we really help trans people without truly understanding what is going on? there are clearly multiple ways that people get dysphoria, and different solutions to it. there is no one-size-fits-all experience, but some activists want only THEIR experience to be the "right" one and are imposing it on everybody. We need to research and understand so we can help EVERYBODY in the way that is best for THEM as an individual.

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Max Hines
Max Hines

How about we just start asking people their biological sex if we ever have a need to ask it. Never ask gender, just let gender be a figment of the Left's imagination. I'm just not going to engage any longer with regards to gender.

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J Money
J Money

Precisely. What trans activists mean when they say “gender” is not in fact gender at all (i.e. masculine & feminine), but a vague conceptual mash up of self-concept, personality traits based on sex stereotypes, and personal identity. Adding further confusion they conflate this version of “gender” with sex (i.e. man: human male & woman: human female).

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When Aphrodite Speaks
When Aphrodite Speaks

Proud of you Abigail for speaking up on the subject!

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drewster 7174
drewster 7174

Wheres the transphobia? They're just talking. Get it together spotify.

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Ryan Bolin
Ryan Bolin

Great Show

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Yo Momma
Yo Momma

The funny thing about all the "transphobic" accusations, is that this lady is actually backing the current LGBT theory: gender is influenced by your social experience. If that were true, then it would apply to trans by definition. It's really a matter of people not knowing how to deal with opposite views (or in this case good science).

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Bumblebee 9337
Bumblebee 9337

If you look like a woman, then you're a woman. Keep your pants on.

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Miguel Fernandez
Miguel Fernandez

Unlike those on the regressive left who are simply bitching that Joe Rogan "gave this woman a platform" - which is a way to complain someone was able to give their opinions who they don't like without offering a real argument, I WILL say that Joe failed here and in this interview reached the same level of stupidity as the Twitter mob. He absolutely failed to call her out of the facts that: Shrier came to that conclusion due to research by Lisa Littman. Ms. Shrier did not care that the publisher of that research issued a correction, an apology and a formal comment. Shrier did not care that Littman never spoke with any transgender people. Shrier did not care that most of the mothers Littman spoke with were culled from anonymous transgender-denial websites. One could possibly argue that the assertion that young women can be influenced to become transgender is not a bigoted point of view or that it does not make a statement about all transgender people. That possibility has just vanished. Shrier is no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt. Abigail Shrier is now a confirmed speaker at the 2020 Values Voter Summit. The Values Voter Summit is choreographed by Family Research Council and its political arm, FRC Action. Family Research Council is a rabid anti-LGBTQ hate group. The hate group's leader, Tony Perkins has direct ties to the Ku Klux Klan. Other hate groups involved in the Values Voter Summit include American Family Association, Alliance Defending Freedom, Liberty Counsel and Coral Ridge Ministries (D. James Kennedy Center).

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Jamal Valdez
Jamal Valdez

Love this discussion I've been telling my friends for years, If a "male" transitions into a woman to me that's disrespectful towards women. Males can never know what labour pain feels like, or experience a women's menstrual cycle. So how could a fella say "he feels as though he's a woman".

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Mike
Mike

The people celebrating trans are literally ruining lives

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Mike Honcho
Mike Honcho

I'm a 20 yr old man trapped in a 66 yr old man's body, can I get some free testosterone at Planned Parenthood?

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Bumblebee 9337
Bumblebee 9337

They'll require a letter from your 19 year old wife.

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Vinni Lopes
Vinni Lopes

Joe Biden just confirmed he is for 8-10 year olds transitioning. EVIL

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Rachel F. Harper
Rachel F. Harper

Way to check your sources gents

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Rachel F. Harper
Rachel F. Harper

The sheer amount of equivocation that's going on here is mind boggling.

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Rachel F. Harper
Rachel F. Harper

"Because I'm an opinion journalist" I mean yea, clearly.

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fullm3tal90
fullm3tal90

At first I had no issues with the podcast and I still don’t BUT.... after she said “witchcraft and demonic possession” are just as dangerous as mental health issues i realized she’s just nuts..... decided to see the counter argument and realized this lady is kind of full of shit doesn’t help joe doesn’t challenge her and just takes all her opinions as facts.... I suggest you guys look at YouTuber NOAHFINNCE he actually did a good job on his issues with this episode ..... again I’m not saying joe should be banned or I hate free speech I’m just saying that lady said a lot of bullshit

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Kate Deaux
Kate Deaux

I'm glad to see that at least one person bothered to do some research on her. She's a charlatan. No qualifications in paediatrics let alone gender studies. Doesn't even have kids of her own. The book is complete rubbish and just her making up stuff to suit her agenda. There's also the old " I was a Tomboy, so nobody is transgender" argument going on in this comment section. I don't really get offended by this stuff anymore and if you're stupid enough to think that you're transgender and you aren't maybe you deserve to be infertile.

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Zuquita Brito
Zuquita Brito

Amazing info

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Reno The Turk
Reno The Turk

1:18:25 like if u get it

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Nicole Michelle Newman
Nicole Michelle Newman

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/stop-using-phony-science-to-justify-transphobia/

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Dave
Dave

an important talk

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OverLord Opps
OverLord Opps

Box butchers

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Sammy Fay K
Sammy Fay K

Where is the informed consent with these hormone treatments? There is going to be a plethora of malpractice lawsuits, in the coming years. Yikes!

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Aery
Aery

After reading quite a few comments (god I will miss the comment section once he’s on Spotify), I noticed that many of you who disagreed with Abigail Shrier for spreading the misinformation, are also mentioning her book and are pointing out what was wrong with it and I wonder, did you all read it? Because it’s pretty impressive how you call her transphobic, yet you still buy her book. Or is this just another trend as seen with J.K Rowling and her Troubled Blood. The hate behind these two books is very interesting and I will order both so I can fully understand this puzzle.

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Cody Whitt
Cody Whitt

Stop caring so much. Problem solved lol

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Kurt Spicer
Kurt Spicer

But then Joe says, "We want these people to find their truth..." But you see, you still are skirting around the issue. There is either truth regarding biological sex, or it's do what your "truth" tells you. This kind of talk, while courageous, in a society that's become utterly unhinged has already given up the higher ground by giving into the relativist mantra. There is the TRUTH (John 14:6), and only those who stand firm upon Him will come out of this with their faces unashamed.

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ZehMatt
ZehMatt

What the hell are those Spotify employees pissed about? I see a rational talk here, where the **CK is this transphobia mentioned here?

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Sienna Waters
Sienna Waters

I’m in my 40s and female and I was a classic case which began as a toddler. I’m straight, and although I asked to transition when I was a pre-teen and at 18, I never did. I never fully desisted and still have issues with my body. However, as the years go by I think it gets more and more manageable for me as the years pass. I’ve battled depression and ‘stuff’ in the past but with a supportive partner and family it’s completely manageable.

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Sienna Waters
Sienna Waters

@w True! Except there’s so much to consider. I have kids and my identity has been shaped by the other people around me. My relationship to my body has changed over the years as I see myself through their eyes. We are the sum of our choices. I always said I didn’t have the support or guts to transition when I was 18, but the truth is far more complex. So I guess that means I’m not trans because I choose to be the mother I believe my kids deserve to have. However, and this is rhetorical, did I ‘never’ have Gender Dysphoria? Hmmm.

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w
w

coping isn't healthy

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First Last
First Last

I like that this whole episode glossed over the pedophiles. She said that the adults online are love-bombing these children then asking for pictures. what do you think is going on there?

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David Whitfield
David Whitfield

I have a feeling it has a lot to do with people simply wanting attention then they get it from coming out trans or whatever then later realize it was the wrong attention and didn't help them at all and just get further down that road to depression. Life gets better people don't make these crazy drastic decisions early and don't let others force you into it it has to be your decision. Honestly the worst thing for a person that is depressed would be giving them hormones most likely.

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Balrog87
Balrog87

As an European who lives with the weight and wisdom of millenia of history and culture, all this progressive American talks sound like teenager whims. Which in the end is the topic of this interview.

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Goldie O
Goldie O

My kids figured out early on to stay off social media. I grew up in a time when people talked in person and on the phone. Social media is way off its rockers when it comes to knowing others and relationships of any kind. It's equivalent is hell. I've watched adults I knew for years reduced to overly attacking others or narcissistic children. Not my thing. Don't care. Don't want to know. As for trans men (men to women) that I've seen over and over: as soon as they are disagreed with on anything - even with rational explanations - they turn aggressive male. (Sure you're a woman, dude. Lol). Crazy will always be crazy. Can't change it. Maybe the gene pool has gotten too shallow.

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Tampa User
Tampa User

She's the expert. I wish he would let her talk.

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Nitin Pandey
Nitin Pandey

why there is always only a two line description about the guest? a viewer should be able to expect what kind of topics would be discussed in the podcast before committing a couple of hours...

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Meilo Waalboer
Meilo Waalboer

Luckily more and more doctors know how to distinguish people who are just confused and real transgenders. Its not like anyone can just walk in and ask for hormones, I mean you can, you just won't get them. You have to go through a whole psychological screening (which takes a few months AT LEAST) and only if you suffer from enough dysphoria, they will start prescribing hormones. Gender affirming surgery is only allowed to be performed after everything within your mind and body is settled. (This is the process in The Netherlands) Also to throw some numbers; the amount of people detransitioning is less than 1%, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1743609518300572. I'm not saying this number should be ignored, rather that its so small that maybe educating people better on the subject would help instead of complaining how "easy" it is to undergo transition (because it is not).

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jose vargas
jose vargas

Trans people punching the air rn

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Adam Gordon
Adam Gordon

Gendered sports allow us to balance rights and freedoms. They afford women the opportunity to compete in a reasonably accessible and fair competitive landscape. Allowing transwomen, with the various biological advantages conferred by experiencing puberty as a male, to compete with women, eradicates that opportunity. The reality is that biological males shouldn't compete with biological females, and we've known that, both empirically and intuitively, for millennia. It's a shitty solution to the situation of trans athletes, but nobody has presented a better one. Removing the rights of billions of women and replacing them with rights for an extremely small fraction of the population is a terrible social transaction.

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Dave L
Dave L

I know others have suggested, but JRE should have Natalie Wynn from Contrapoints on the show. She's pretty brilliant, educational, and hilarious

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Aishwarya Harish
Aishwarya Harish

My confusion is why are people upset at trans people on social media on creating a safe space for other trans people instead of being upset that the medical system in the US is so bad that they are not doing their job properly at all. Many countries have several steps that a patient has to go through before getting to physically transition. This includes mental health assessments, health assessments and ensuring for certain that the person is suffering from gender dysphoria. This woman has talked to a limited amount of people majority of who have the same bias as her. How fair is it to say that this is the truth when that is the case?

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Dreadful Jason
Dreadful Jason

I’m here from America uncovered

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Nikola Tesla
Nikola Tesla

AND this is what the so called "anti gay" laws were about in Russia!!!

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Haley Wilson
Haley Wilson

Much of what Abigail is saying is factually incorrect - you do need a letter of support from a therapist for medical transition and hormone replacement therapy. Often you need A LOT more than that to access care. Also, the uterus is not removed until many many years after HRT; many trans men with a uterus can still give birth. There are many records of this. Hormones are not irreversible - except some body hair and bodily changes - people still have reproductive function, however this may be diminished. This is a poor tactic to undermined transgender care and support. Joe Rogan - you gave a platform to someone who is not providing factual information about trans care. One study to base a book off of is poor science. I hope you consider giving a similar platform to transgender people who have had positive experiences transitioning, not just some fear-mongering biological deterministic perspective that ultimately chooses to remove body autonomy and reduce a group of people to a mental health issue.

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Dave L
Dave L

Planned Parenthood's own website says as long as you are 18+ you can receive "Gender Affirming Hormone Therapy".

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Heber Faucheux
Heber Faucheux

What are your sources? He also said around the hour 2 minute mark that he had a trans dude on the show. Watch the whole show next time?

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EVE king evekingpoetry
EVE king evekingpoetry

Very informative.

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Ethan Lamar
Ethan Lamar

EVE king evekingpoetry she is not an expert, that is her opinion. Just be wary of what you hear. Make a decision work doctors your own daughter.

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EVE king evekingpoetry
EVE king evekingpoetry

I'm dealing with this now with my daughter. I'm crying inside while listening.

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MusicalMarble
MusicalMarble

All social media should allow you to classify which feedback to listen to in this awesome way: Any time someone trolls or gives really bad feedback, you should be able to click next to their name and change the font their comments appear as so it looks like Comic Sans. That way, if people speak like morons to you, you can tell based on the font when that person speaks again. Do like, Garamond for awesome commenters. That way, your brain can prioritize if you have a small-medium community.

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J P
J P

over the years of listening and watching Joe's shows, I am still impressed how he hardly stutters or looses track when he talks. Im more impressed how he is probably one of the best "listeners". Its a rare breed to be a great listener.

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Fiach O'Connor
Fiach O'Connor

De-transition is such a stupid word to me. It's transition. One way or the other. The correct word to use is revert or something like that. It like saying "I walked across the road but forgot my keys so I had to de-walk back across the road." The biggest victim of all this madness is language!!

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A M
A M

I think people should talk less about their genitals.

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Keith Frenette
Keith Frenette

I am all for Planned Parenthood giving out free condoms to teens without their parents permission and I’m pro choice to a certain “week” but this shit about adolescent girls being able to walk in and get testosterone without a doctors consultation is outrageous. I’m a 40 year old man and I can’t do that. Wow. Just Wow

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DerHammerMann
DerHammerMann

Actually, we know pretty well what the long term effects of testosterone given to adolescent girls are. The communist german democratic republic used it to dope their female athletes. The things they have to live with because of that is horrible

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grtwhtbnr
grtwhtbnr

America Uncovered brought me here

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StatutoryRock
StatutoryRock

I'm gonna send my wife to Planned Parenthood and have her tell them she's trans and get that test and bring it home to me so I can be FUCKIN SHREDDED! GET SOME!

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AC
AC

America Uncovered brought me here!!!

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Andrew
Andrew

1:03:30 god damn, that'd make me kill myself right there

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Sheilah Gaines
Sheilah Gaines

I'm wondering, if our society were more accepting of the range of gender expression of both men and women, for example, men wearing pretty skirts, women being tough and keeping their body hair, maybe people would feel less of a need to use hormones to be who they truly are.

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Khwaja Yusuf
Khwaja Yusuf

If Spotify employees have problem with this episode, they should be ashamed of themselves!

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Max Gaming
Max Gaming

Give this woman a trophy This is the type of content we need more off to stop this miss

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But Why
But Why

Is it possible that Politians allow this, as well as late term abortions, as a means of population control

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Jason Ruiz
Jason Ruiz

what a cool podcast..what a cool topic...love it when topics that are in the dark get the spotlight treatment..!!! GOOD JOB JOE!!

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Mallasi K
Mallasi K

19:35 ahahhaha I love that

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stoobid fool
stoobid fool

I regret clicking on this already sorry man i have to nope out. Get a trans guest who actually knows their shit on instead of a goddamn terf

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Heber Faucheux
Heber Faucheux

Listen to the whole podcast. He says around the hour 2 minute mark that he has had a trans dude on that he really enjoyed talking to.

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THiN-KiNG
THiN-KiNG

Big dim sum at Spotify

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The Ajdam
The Ajdam

As soon as I heard her say "I'm usually just an opinion piece writer" I knew how this would go. Fair play to Joe he tried to keep her talking facts and not opinions and she couldn't.

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Paul Mark
Paul Mark

I guess I'm not surprised Human being/Society is going down this road. Common Sense, much like the dinosaurs are starting to extinct.

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Ya boy Okuyasu
Ya boy Okuyasu

It amazes me how pointing out the problems of the LGBT movement and wanting to help fix them somehow makes you homophobic

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Darren Skeeter
Darren Skeeter

Lol 1:08:27 Sounds like the source of spotify's butthurtness

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Rizdilla
Rizdilla

God Bless you, Abigail!

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Nick
Nick

Dear Spotify employees. This is called open discussion. Not transphobia. Joe Rogan is popular because he allows open discussion. Censuring this is akin to communist like countries.

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LPempty
LPempty

@NostalgicFangirl yes that’s the issue. As many kids and teenagers are already confused. That’s exactly what I’m talking abt. However, she is presenting this as anti trans issue. She had the audacity to call it satanism and witchcraft. Then she compared the fact that people who suffer with anorexia wouldn’t be kept together for obvious reasons as proof that if a trans person is put together in a room with cis people they would spread transgenderism. What a load of bullshit. She is bringing a serious topic in a pseudoscientific way. I’m glad at least bro Rogan educated her on how social media works. If she sat down with an actually professional it would be obvious what a joke she is. I experienced the same thing as a teen and always wanted to be a boy. Not a tom boy but I just had a mild form of gender dysphoria that I didn’t know about until later in life when I found out it what it was. I wasn’t surrounded by any trans people matter of fact I didn’t even know they existed bc I grew up in Saudi Arabia. I’m glad I didn’t because if I was surrounded by the current transtrender culture I might have transitioned which would have definitely been wrong for me as the dysphoria corrected itself later in life. It took quite a while and I’m not sure what caused it to go away but eventually it did. Just because that’s my experience doesn’t mean this is what being trans is. The fact that she doesn’t even bother to find out the difference between dysphoria and dysmorphia is a joke on its own tbh. That’s exactly what I mean when I say she is talking about some truths to bring forth her transphobic agenda. It’s honestly sad and pathetic. She has conducted surveys but can’t remember numbers and never published her research which makes it more evident that she is a huge liar and is skewing the information she found. The fact that her numbers keep changing through this is embarrassing on its own and tbh as a professional I wouldn’t want to be seen in public after this. I’m all in for talking about this topic as the whole transtrender thing is making it confusing for teens and harder for trans people, but again the way she is going about it is just wrong and unethical. Again I would suggest you do your research even though you think you know everything because you’ve had some experience with it. You’re the kind of people she is praying on. If I didn’t know any better I would have taken her word for it too, especially since I’ve experienced the same exact thing.

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NostalgicFangirl
NostalgicFangirl

@LPempty I don't need to do that research because I experienced almost everything she listed first hand. I have mild gender dysphoria and would've ended up a detransitioner if I was born 10 years later than I was. I've stayed by the sides of detrans friends whos trans friends abandoned them when they wanted out. I was part of the tumblr madness from around 2015 when vulnerable young lgbt people were being manipulated on that damn site, and I left when I saw how bad it was getting. I've settled on being an androgynous lesbian, and the world should focus more on tearing away gender stereotypes rather than forcing kids into boxes just because of their interests.

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LPempty
LPempty

@NostalgicFangirl lmao what cult. Joe Rogan stans are so dense it’s literally sad and embarrassing. She didn’t list a single fact or anything that was remotely true. Some of the things she was talking about had some truths behind them but it was just delivered with malicious intent. You can literally google all of those things it’s free. Considering how dumb y’all are it’s probably time to start questioning things. Especially anything coming from dense Bro Rogan. Hilarious enough you talk about cults yet are the one taking her word for it without even doing any research.

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NostalgicFangirl
NostalgicFangirl

@LPempty no, its not open discussion. She's stating truths that you don't like because it goes against your cult and you want to silence it.

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TwizzlyBlue
TwizzlyBlue

@LPempty trueeeeeeeeeeeeeeer

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Jeikob Dunn
Jeikob Dunn

Majority of y’all, including Abigail, are confusing gender identity with gender expression; which don’t necessarily correlate.

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Chester Mills
Chester Mills

That’s a distinction without a difference in my opinion. I’ve never heard a convincing argument that can separate identity from expression. As far as I can tell, they are two sides of the same coin.

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Nelson
Nelson

Identity politics is ruining the world, that is what is pushing this crisis.

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Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

we shouldnt be cheering on this form of psychosis...Fffffffffff!!!!

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Δ
Δ

Can you get some one from the olympics to comment on this?

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Kevin Johnson
Kevin Johnson

its all definitely a psychological issue...i dont care what age you are...if you are a female and feel like you should be a male...vice versa the same....there is some psychological problems there...my opinion on this doesnt make me transphobic...a phobia is defined as a fear of something...im not afraid of anyone...i just feel there is too much of this going on...

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Natalie S
Natalie S

I'm over here as a woman asking for more estrogen and they're like ehhh I think it's in your head. Tf.

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Prathamesh Musale
Prathamesh Musale

fuck this is scary...but so glad that it's being discussed

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